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Mabel Elizabeth Wall [w.8.6]

Mabel Elizabeth Wall was the sixth child of Edward Wall & Mabel Wale born November 8th, 1854 at West Bromwich.

Mabel was still living at home in 1871 with her widowed father & brothers at Newhall St, West Bromwich.

At the time of the 1881 census Mabel, aged 26, was a domestic cook for the Lingard family at 26 Iron Gate, Derby. Head of the household James Lingard was a bank manager.

In July-September 1884 Mabel married Isaac Timmins at Derby. Isaac was born November 26th, 1864 at West Bromwich, the son of Hannah Brookes & Richard Timmins.

In 1891 Mabel & Isaac (recorded as Timmis on census) were living at 30 Grove St, Derby & Isaac was a blacksmith.  They had 3 of their own children at home – Winifred (4), Isaac E (2) & Thomas Henry (4 months). Their first child, Hannah Florence had sadly died in 1886.   Also living with Mabel and Isaac was their  ‘adopted’ daughter, niece Mabel Rebecca Wall, aged 11 who was the daughter of Mabel’s brother William Harvey Wall & his wife Rebecca Crust.

In 1901 they were still living at 30 Grove St, but now Isaac is recorded as a furniture dealer.  Sons Isaac & Thomas were still at home & 2 more sons had arrived – James (7) & Walter (5).  Niece Mabel Wall was still living with them & listed as a domestic servant.  Daughter Winifred had died just before the 1901 census, aged 13.


Mabel & Isaac with their 4 sons (left to right) Walter, James, Isaac Edward & Thomas Henry and adopted daughter Mabel Rebecca Wall

(Photo courtesy of Ruth Toothill, granddaughter of Mabel Rebecca)

Mabel & Isaac were still in the same house  in 1911 but were now occupying both 30 & 31Grove Street- they had 8 rooms.  Isaac was again working as a furniture dealer & all 4 sons were still at home.  Son Isaac Edward was a house painter & paper hanger, Thomas Henry was a furniture upholsterer for J. Jones & son, James was a grocer’s apprentice & son Walter was an apprentice boiler riveter.  They also had a boarder.  It was noted on the census that Mabel & Isaac had had 6 children, only 4 of whom were still living.

Mabel died September 29th, 1932, aged 77 at Derby. Her funeral took place on October 10th at the Queen’s Hall Mission & she was buried at Nottingham Rd. Cemetery.

Isaac died February 18th, 1939, aged 74, at 35 Brighton Road Derby. Probate was granted on March 20th, 1939 son Isaac Edward, gas company collector, & John Henry Garton, grocers’ inspector.  His effects amounted to £1,735.8s.6d. Many people attended Isaac’s funeral at Queen’s Hall Methodist Mission, Derby & he was buried at Nottingham Rd. Cemetery.  Prior to his death Isaac had been a retired railway storekeeper. He had been associated with the Methodist Mission for nearly 60 years.


The children of Mabel Elizabeth Wall & Isaac Timmins were:

w.8.6.1 Hannah Florence Timmins born May 2nd, 1885 at Derby; died 1886 at Derby

w.8.6.2 Winifred Timmins born November 11th, 1887 at Derby; died February 2nd,1901 at Derby
w.8.6.3 Isaac Edward Timmins born September 14th, 1888 at Derby; died Oct-Dec 1966 at Derby
w.8.6.4 Thomas Henry Timmins born November 16th, 1890 at Derby; died 1966 at Derby
w.8.6.5 James Timmins born June 29th,1893 at Derby; died March 1984 at Derby
w.8.6.6 Walter Timmins born November 6th, 1895 at Derby; died c1971.



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